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Sunday 22 September 2019 was World Car Free Day. A large area of central London was closed off for free, outdoor activities and many boroughs were organising activities too. Londoners could request a Play Street from their local council, and close their streets for their own community events.

Did you take part in Car Free Day this year, why or why not? What was your experience? And did you apply for a Play Street?

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The discussion ran from 20 June 2019 - 20 September 2019

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Avatar for - Monarch butterfly

Has Mayor Khan considered making every Sunday a car free day? Link it to more Sunday opening restrictions, Sunday transport timetable. Less pollution, quieter streets, more family/friends time, a precious weekend day off for many workers

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There is hundreds of thougsans disabled drivers who are depending on driving a car for daily commuting - the Mayor of London seem to have forgotten them totally, which is very sad.

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I would like to see every day in central London a car free day. London has  amazing public transport infrastructure and it has its own wonderful black cabs to take you from door to door if you cannot walk or cycle. It is baffling that cars...

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I would like to see every day in central London a car free day. London has  amazing public transport infrastructure and it has its own wonderful black cabs to take you from door to door if you cannot walk or cycle. It is baffling that cars are allowed into central London at all- especially into side streets and residential streets. We need to confine motorised traffic of all kinds- buses, delivery vehicles etc to the main roads such as the Marylebone Road, Euston Road, Oxford Street, Tottenham Court Road, Portland Place, Regent Street, Edgeware Road etc so that  the smaller side streets are left free for people to walk and cycle (Except for access for deliveries and black cabs)

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Jumbelina, why except black cabs?

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What Livehere said!

It is wonderful to be able to cycle in the streets now with (most) streets having fewer cars but it is absolutely terrifying when one of the many speed racers, that have come out to take advantage of the same empty...

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It is wonderful to be able to cycle in the streets now with (most) streets having fewer cars but it is absolutely terrifying when one of the many speed racers, that have come out to take advantage of the same empty streets, zooms by. Police really need to be doing something about this. Lower speed limits. Enforce speed limits. Turn on the bloody speed cameras. The pavements are too full to accommodate runners and walkers. Runners and cyclists need to be protected on the roads to give the pedestrians more of the space they need right now and for the foreseeable future. 

This is the time to make changes. Having clean air is absolutely vital to fighting the coronavirus as is having fewer people on public transport. Now is the time to put money towards protected cycle lanes.

Look at what Amsterdam did when they decided to prioritise cycling in the 60's and 70's. They have even narrower roads! Make roads one way to accommodate space for cycle lanes, most roads don't have space for two way traffic anyways. Take away parking spaces (other than loading and handicapped of course). Make parking what it should be, a luxury, not a right and charge accordingly. Then we will only take our car when we really need to. While it would be nice to have concrete separations, it is unneeded, only the simple rubber bumpers (see Barcelona) are needed to segregate the lanes.

If you wouldn't feel comfortable having your young child ride on a cycle lane then it is a failed cycle lane. Having cyclists share lanes with buses is NOT the answer. It is really scary to have a massive impatient bus on your tail and it is also terrifying to have to constantly weave in and out when the buses make their stops. Just add speed racers and death is inevitable ..

 

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Park Lane is surprisingly busy during lockdown, and there are a few 'uber-cars' jetting exhaust fumes and noise around side streets and main streets. Otherwise hardly any cars or vans at all. Wonderfully clean air and peacce and quiet. Both...

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Park Lane is surprisingly busy during lockdown, and there are a few 'uber-cars' jetting exhaust fumes and noise around side streets and main streets. Otherwise hardly any cars or vans at all. Wonderfully clean air and peacce and quiet. Both essential for health and for resilience in face of coronavirus.  We will have to live with coronavirus for ever. So let's keep the streets quiet with clean air.

Let us NOT go back to traffic and pollution.

Do things DIFFERENTLY from right now onwards.

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It's good that there's car-free day, but I would like to see stronger action - I would like to see a car-free day every month!! 

Make Soho, and Oxford street completely car free

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The number one means of moving is on foot, cycling is not the priority. All people whether they cycle or drive, or neither, all travel by foot.

There is a lot os resentment against extra spending on cycling infrastructure, due to a...

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The number one means of moving is on foot, cycling is not the priority. All people whether they cycle or drive, or neither, all travel by foot.

There is a lot os resentment against extra spending on cycling infrastructure, due to a sizeable number of cyclists who use footpaths, where no cycling permitted, not heeding red lights, even those on purpose built cycleways, mot stopping at pedestrian crossings, and now with dockless bikes, far too many are badly and inconsiderately parked, being an obstruction for many, not helped by the lack of action by the commercial providers policing where they are parked, despite the GPS installed. 

Visitors to London, many from abroad are particularly cavalier and TFL useless in taking any measures against users of its bikes who transgress, To even suggest the police can deal with it, is a joke. 

Good idea to make Royal Parks car free, but also needed is better signage of which paths through them are mixed, pedestrians and cycles, and which pedestrians only. Also make more visible or renew existing signage that pedestrians take priority.

 

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Philjer, walking is only a reasonable option over short distances, not for commuters or shoppers. It's important of course, and pedestrians are fairly well provided for in London. For many journeys, cycling, public transport and driving are...

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Philjer, walking is only a reasonable option over short distances, not for commuters or shoppers. It's important of course, and pedestrians are fairly well provided for in London. For many journeys, cycling, public transport and driving are more practical, and all need proper provision. Drivers have the road network, though they clog it up by parking and using cars unnecessarily. There are many bus lanes, though not enough, so buses are too often blocked by cars and taxis. There are trains, already at full capacity. That leaves cycling. Most people are unwilling to cycle with motor traffic, so a network of cycle tracks is needed. That doesn't yet exist. When it does, people will use it and people on foot will be less troubled.

There is indeed some foolish resentment against investment in cycling. It's odd, because the fact that just about every driver breaks the law and highway code on almost every journey is rarely considered a reason not to invest in roads. Even though drivers kill and injure many people, and cause so many other serious problems too.

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Actually pedestrians are slowly losing provisions as more and more pavements are taken up with cycle parks and as I stated also blocked by inconsiderate parking of bikes.

Then also as I said far too many cyclists are ignoring pedestrian...

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Actually pedestrians are slowly losing provisions as more and more pavements are taken up with cycle parks and as I stated also blocked by inconsiderate parking of bikes.

Then also as I said far too many cyclists are ignoring pedestrian crossings and red lights, both on normal roads but also crossing cycle paths.

Then as I also said, cyclists using pavements where cycling not permitted and on those where mixed used ignoring the pedestrians take priority signs.  Or as a reply said "clogging" up pavements, even when just 10-30 feet away is allocated cycle parking 

None of those facts are "foolish", and as I mentioned the police enforcement is a joke as is the dockless bike operators & TFL policing of their own standards.

Obviously motor vehicles do transgress but with number plates much easier to identify transgressors.

Less than 2 hours ago I saw three males riding 3 TFL hire bikes down Aldersgate on a pavement, obstructing pedestrians, when 3 feet away was an available cycle path. That was foolish. I have also seen numerous times on other places like Victoria Embankment, Blackfriars bridge and elsewhere. As well as cyclists also opting for pavements for roads very clear just feet away.

And as Someone wrongly claims when they exist people will use them and people on foot will be less troubled is clearly wrong, and a foolish claim to make. And no vehicles were blocking the cycle paths either.

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I only drive into London on a Sunday - to my church, which is situated near Oxford Circus. I am a blue badge holder. A car-free day does me no favours at all. .The Oxford Circus tube station is not user friendly. It is about time the mayor...

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I only drive into London on a Sunday - to my church, which is situated near Oxford Circus. I am a blue badge holder. A car-free day does me no favours at all. .The Oxford Circus tube station is not user friendly. It is about time the mayor took into account people like me. It is bad enough with all the road closures for marathons etc, but a way through can be found on those occasions. This is not so on a car-free day.

 

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I would most certainly not wish to take part, it is a celebration of "I want to look good, never mind how much it hurts the ill, the disabled, the weak in society".

 

Those inconsiderate people who came up with this stupid idea...

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I would most certainly not wish to take part, it is a celebration of "I want to look good, never mind how much it hurts the ill, the disabled, the weak in society".

 

Those inconsiderate people who came up with this stupid idea should be ashamed.

 

A much more sensible approach would be to find an effective way to reduce traffic all year round.

 

For those who wonder about me, I'm 72, reasonably able.  Around 6 months of the year I do drive including to work, (yes I still work full time at age 72), and in the warmer weather use an electric bike that I charge from my own off grid set of solar panels.

 

 

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Well said Mike - there is too much virtue signalling in this

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Hi everyone

You might have seen the news on social media: Transport for London (TfL) and the mayor announced that Car Free Day will be back this September.

TfL said that last year thousands of Londoners and visitors took part in the Car Free Day celebrations and 65% of people surveyed said the events inspired them to use the car less. What about you?

We'll keep you posted on the details!

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That's 65% of which people?  Those who were able to cycle or sit at home on their sofas? 

Get rid of the ill-designed "essential safety improvements" and traffic will produce less pollution.  It quite clear that in London "every journey...

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That's 65% of which people?  Those who were able to cycle or sit at home on their sofas? 

Get rid of the ill-designed "essential safety improvements" and traffic will produce less pollution.  It quite clear that in London "every journey does NOT matter" only the ones that fit your narrow focus

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No wonder the mayor is unpopular with central London residents. A car free day with celebrations is a nightmare.  It results in people driving into London, parking in residential side streets, just to get to the shopping streets.

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Safer ways for cyclists are the way forward. I ride about 1500 miles a year in London and the only thing which discourages me is the danger of being hit by a vehicle

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Improving things for cyclists matters. Also, we need to take strong measures against single-use private cars. Let's fine them. Car pollution kills people.

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Cyclists could help themselves as well. Red lights and no entry signs apply to all vehicles including cycles. Realise that large vehicles have a large turning circle so stay back from them when they are turning as I, as a pedestrian...

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Cyclists could help themselves as well. Red lights and no entry signs apply to all vehicles including cycles. Realise that large vehicles have a large turning circle so stay back from them when they are turning as I, as a pedestrian, cyclist and non-car driver do.

Also respect pedestrian crossings, when other cyclists and vehicles have stopped at one, do not speed past these stationary road users.

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While I appreciate the fun and possible health benefits of such an event, where is the evidence that the car free day (which was really only part of the day) has had any beneficial affect on London's air quality.

Still very disappointed...

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While I appreciate the fun and possible health benefits of such an event, where is the evidence that the car free day (which was really only part of the day) has had any beneficial affect on London's air quality.

Still very disappointed that while other cities have declared a deadline for private cars moving through their central areas, London lags behind.  For a city that wishes to be a world leader surely it should be setting the trend.  

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Most capital cities in other countries are lorry and van free after 7.30am.  Why can't we do this?  

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Would be better to have a no HGV day where lorries were banne. It would also be good with a no bike day to relive those cyclist who feel traffic regulations don't apply to them and believe riding on the pavement is acceptable.

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In principle I agree but lets assume those HGVs are not just driving round aimlessly?  although the stupid mobile advert vans ought to be banned altogether.  So we may also need to have a "no food in the shops day" or a "no work on building...

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In principle I agree but lets assume those HGVs are not just driving round aimlessly?  although the stupid mobile advert vans ought to be banned altogether.  So we may also need to have a "no food in the shops day" or a "no work on building sites day" or "no amazon deliveries day" too.

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The  HGVs would just come into London during the night instead of during the day.  No-one would get any sleep at all.

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 I am surprised that we have not heard from the office of MOL about the success (or otherwise) of this day.  Are the London boroughs and the the office of the MOL really serious about reducing air pollution.  Why was it only one day and not...

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 I am surprised that we have not heard from the office of MOL about the success (or otherwise) of this day.  Are the London boroughs and the the office of the MOL really serious about reducing air pollution.  Why was it only one day and not piloted for several days per week over several months?  Why do we have to look to towns like Bristol (banning private diesel cars from 2021) for a lead on how to tackle the city's air pollution?.

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Not serious enough. The Mayor has taken some action, not much, but his powers, budget and public support are limited. Some of the boroughs have no intention of doing anything.

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What a stupid idea.

I am in outer London, so I simply drove to work and drove back home again afterwards.

Thank goodness none of this stupidity affected me.

Time to scrap the brainless mayor, and end the Curse of Khan.

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Bully For You !  If Khan has his way, there will be no cars driving in London and businesses will die.  Hands Up those who want their livelihood in the hands of left-wing strike-prone transport unions.

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I am all for London (on-ground) 'free car days' so long as we have regular London (above-ground) 'free aeroplane days' as well. Too many noisy polluting aeroplanes overfly London day-in-day-out causing all sorts of pollution and noise. I...

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I am all for London (on-ground) 'free car days' so long as we have regular London (above-ground) 'free aeroplane days' as well. Too many noisy polluting aeroplanes overfly London day-in-day-out causing all sorts of pollution and noise. I live in Peckham SE London 20+ miles away from Heathrow - but, still I am horribly effected by 'Mayor Khan's support of Heathrow aeroplanes and Heathrow expansion.

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I hadn't thought of this before, but how practical would it be initially to have an offshore airport for large aeroplanes, maybe in the Thames Estuary and use part of Heathrow, Gatwick, Stanstead and Luton airports strictly only...

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I hadn't thought of this before, but how practical would it be initially to have an offshore airport for large aeroplanes, maybe in the Thames Estuary and use part of Heathrow, Gatwick, Stanstead and Luton airports strictly only for electric shuttles?

 

I accept that building an offshore airport would be expensive, but think of the way that large parts of the existing airports would become obsolete allowing the prime land to be sold off for housing to offset the cost!  In the long term, larger electric aeroplanes, when put into production, could then also fly from the trimmed down land based airports.

 

No, I'm not being a Nimby, my house is positioned where, for complex reasons, currently it is rare to hear a large aeroplane at all so I'm not affected!

 

 

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Helicopters!!   Drones!!!   

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Someone suggested more cycling like Amsterdam. However, in London when a road is blocked with cars, cyclist will take to the pavement - and get aggretive should a pedestrian dare not get out of their way quick enough.  Cyclists will often...

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Someone suggested more cycling like Amsterdam. However, in London when a road is blocked with cars, cyclist will take to the pavement - and get aggretive should a pedestrian dare not get out of their way quick enough.  Cyclists will often go through red lights - and get aggressive should a pedestrian dare to cross the road when the green man indicates it is safe to do so. Someone else suggested that car free day would go some way towards easing middle class guilt - much like volunteering in African orphanages and the like. But I'll leave that for the middle classes to debate. But think about it, whilst middle classes had yoga on Tower Bridge and the Mayor of London had a photo op, those who work and take bus because they cannot afford the tube were massively inconvenienced. Someone suggested  dealing with the real issues - great idea - but dealing with real issues is not on the radar for any politician. 

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Concerned1, I have to say that people cycling have never caused me any problem whatsoever.

The difference between Amsterdam and London is that there they have proper infrastructure for cycling and pedestrians. Here, the main priority is...

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Concerned1, I have to say that people cycling have never caused me any problem whatsoever.

The difference between Amsterdam and London is that there they have proper infrastructure for cycling and pedestrians. Here, the main priority is the convenience of motorists. As we very slowly move towards Amsterdam standards of traffic management, the amount of motor traffic will decline. Everyone will benefit from that.

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This was an appalling and selfish idea.  Able bodied people enjoying themselves at the expense of the less able.

 

It's as bad as raising taxes on the poor so that the rich can have their taxes reduced.

 

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This was an appalling and selfish idea.  Able bodied people enjoying themselves at the expense of the less able.

 

It's as bad as raising taxes on the poor so that the rich can have their taxes reduced.

 

Who was the idiot who decided it would be a good idea to block the less able from central London?  Whoever it is, he or she should be forced to meet with some of the less able to explain why he, or she, wished them harm.

 

Then he or she should promise not to repeat this dreadful exercise.

 

What is needed is not car free days, but practical ways to reduce the harm that cars can cause.  Maybe subsidised purchase of the lowest polluting cars,  Maybe subsidies for those who drive less.

 

Also, another idiot has suggested that people driving short journeys should be taxed, to discourage people from driving a mile to the nearest supermarket.  You know what'll happen, people will drive further to a more distant supermarket!  What do these people have between their ears?

 

It makes me wonder how these idiots ever get into a position to have their daft ideas listened to.

 

Suggestion - before you suggest any more selfish and or stupid ideas, try to think it through first!

 

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'What is needed is not car free days, but practical ways to reduce the harm that cars can cause.  Maybe subsidised purchase of the lowest polluting cars,  Maybe subsidies for those who drive less.'

Yes good idea. We already have the ULEZ...

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'What is needed is not car free days, but practical ways to reduce the harm that cars can cause.  Maybe subsidised purchase of the lowest polluting cars,  Maybe subsidies for those who drive less.'

Yes good idea. We already have the ULEZ which is going to be expanded. What we need next is an actual ban on diesels.

But the issue with cars is not just pollution, it's the general degredation of the environment they cause - noise, running people over etc. Cars make cities worse and events like this help people see a different way, which I believe is worthwhile.

Are you disabled yourself? Genuine question and interested how yesterday's event directly inconvenienced you. 

 

 

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No, in reply to Murun, I'm not disabled.  I had a taste of disability with heart trouble in 2006, now cured, so I genuinely feel for the less able.

 

I was not inconvenienced at all by yesterday's event, (as it happened I was outside the...

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No, in reply to Murun, I'm not disabled.  I had a taste of disability with heart trouble in 2006, now cured, so I genuinely feel for the less able.

 

I was not inconvenienced at all by yesterday's event, (as it happened I was outside the M25 most of the day), but I can see it was potentially a disaster for some.  Just consider a local less able resident who could not get out in his own car or in a taxi due to the road being closed.  The idea was incredibly selfish.

 

Stopping cars is still not the answer, we need to reduce journeys.  Just compare - I live in a London suburb and drive in central London probably for 50 miles a year average in my economical diesel, (some years I do not cross the north or south circular roads at all).  Compare me with another driver in a petrol car that pollutes slightly less per mile but who covers 12,000 miles in London every year.  A big issue is not how much pollution per mile, but how much pollution overall.

 

I'll add that in fine weather I ride my electric bike, (I charge it from a solar panel system).

 

Now to let you call me a silly old fool, I'm 71 years old and still working full time.

 

Just remember, my average 50 miles per year in central London causes far less congestion than the petrol or even electric car covering 12,000 miles per year.

 

And finally, the potential for pollution from my solar charged electric bike is negligible!

 

 

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Pointless smug virtue-signalling

 


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