Mayor’s Police and Crime Plan consultation

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Reducing and preventing violence

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To reduce and prevent violence in all its forms and to prevent families and communities from having to experience the pain, grief and fear that violence brings, we and our partners and other organisations must all work together.

To  do this, the draft Police and Crime Plan focuses on: 

  • preventing and reducing violence affecting young people
  • reducing reoffending by the most violent and high-risk groups
  • making London a city in which women and girls are safer and feel safer
  • preventing hate crime.

The draft plan also sets out some of the ways this will be achieved, for example by:  

  • targeting organised criminal groups and the most violent offenders
  • offering young Londoners impacted by violence positive opportunities, mentoring and support
  • delivering interventions to improve the safety of women and girls in London
  • offering education and community interventions to counter extremist views
  • improving the services delivered to victims of hate crime.
What do you think?
  • What more could be done to tackle violence in London?
  • How can we build a city that’s safe for children and young people to grow up in?
  • How can we make sure that women and girls are safe and feel safe?
  • What actions or interventions would have the most impact?
  • How will we know that we’ve succeeded?

This discussion is co-moderated by the Mayor’s Office for Policing and Crime.

The discussion ran from 16 November 2021 - 21 January 2022

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Hi everyone,

Thanks for your input, some interesting points here. Please note that the Mayor’s remit is oversight of the Metropolitan Police and the services that MOPAC commission. There have been some points around sentencing, police powers and legislation change which are the remit of central government.

In terms of the things the Mayor has control over, what interventions do you think would be most effective?

Thanks,

MOPAC

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"In terms of the things the Mayor has control over, what interventions do you think would be most effective?"

That is really the wrong question here. You need to provide the evidence for different interventions. Regardless of how well...

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"In terms of the things the Mayor has control over, what interventions do you think would be most effective?"

That is really the wrong question here. You need to provide the evidence for different interventions. Regardless of how well-meaning the responses here might be, if there is evidence that a particular intervention is ineffective, it would be a waste of time pursuing it further. Additionally, if there is evidence that another intervention is effective, then it should already be implemented.

It could be that someone can come up with an intervention that has not been thought of or tried before. That would be a good starting point for investigating it further - is that your intention?

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Providing more opportunities for out of school skills developing activities

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I agree with the approach to tackle a root cause of the violence. But as a woman, i want actions that will help to PREVENT violence NOW. I don’t want you to help me to recover, i want you to do everything possible it will never happen....

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I agree with the approach to tackle a root cause of the violence. But as a woman, i want actions that will help to PREVENT violence NOW. I don’t want you to help me to recover, i want you to do everything possible it will never happen.

Talking about prevention. The most obvious thing to me is to make public spaces and parks well lit after dark. It dark after 4pm in the winter and it’s impossible to avoid dark areas atm without being imprisoned in your home for the whole winter if you are a woman.
What it would cost to do a very practical thing (also very visible to public) to have lightnings in the city parks? it will change lifes of all the women but also men and kids enormously. People will have safe place to go, be fit, get to know the community, and watch each other!

To add even more, all the talks about asking people to use public transport lack the main insights that women are reluctant to give up on personal vehicles because of a safety issues in all those dark streets.

Well lit public spaces is smth that women specifically are starving for.

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No amount of extra police officers on the streets, or Ask Angela services will help the cause of violence against women. The problem occurs operationally when front line officers fill in their DASH risk assessments as a result of deeply...

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No amount of extra police officers on the streets, or Ask Angela services will help the cause of violence against women. The problem occurs operationally when front line officers fill in their DASH risk assessments as a result of deeply misogynist police culture. This is not a problem confined to the Met but one we must tackle. Police are commonly encouraged to distance themselves from anything that presents as unevidenced. This provides an unacceptable loophole for stalking, harassment and unphysical domestic abuse. When presented with these claims they will score the women low and fail to pass them on to quality services which might validate their claims and sign their legal aid application forms for example.

One solution, in the absence of central government political will, is to educate doctors and mental health professionals to dig deeper, spot the signs and refer them to quality services. One lazy referral to the National Centre for Domestic Violence is not good enough.

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Around London anti social behaviour is out of control (drinking in the streets leading to shouting and violent behaviour, urinating in public, begging and driving around with stupidly loud stereos late at night) is often ignored. We really...

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Around London anti social behaviour is out of control (drinking in the streets leading to shouting and violent behaviour, urinating in public, begging and driving around with stupidly loud stereos late at night) is often ignored. We really need more police walking the streets. It is only when the perpetrators move on to more aggression and more violent crime do the police take notice but by then it is often too late.

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I fully concur. Visible ASBs make the city a terrible place to live in. Imagine calling 999 and reporting the same group of individuals for months on end, only to have your CADs stacked up in a pile somewhere.

Public use of CCTVs is one...

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I fully concur. Visible ASBs make the city a terrible place to live in. Imagine calling 999 and reporting the same group of individuals for months on end, only to have your CADs stacked up in a pile somewhere.

Public use of CCTVs is one thing the Mayor’s Office can tackle. But nothing beats feet on the street.

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Potential offenders and reoffenders should be helped finding a purpose and sense of community. This means helping them integrate and find jobs/activities to be involved in that are aimed at building communities and a general sense of...

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Potential offenders and reoffenders should be helped finding a purpose and sense of community. This means helping them integrate and find jobs/activities to be involved in that are aimed at building communities and a general sense of purpose.

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Young offenders, whether or not awarded a short prison sentence, should be given training against re-offending.

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I agree with making London safer, young people need guidance from ex gang members or ex offenders who can help them. All sexual crimes should be an automatic 30 years in prison. Domestic abusers should be given a minimum of 10 years &...

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I agree with making London safer, young people need guidance from ex gang members or ex offenders who can help them. All sexual crimes should be an automatic 30 years in prison. Domestic abusers should be given a minimum of 10 years & they should be in prison from the first reported abuse. More police on the streets at night along with training for the public on how to keep safe.

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The police need to be given the powers and support to properly protect and police london, yes they need to be accountable but they need to be given the opportunity and resources to protect the communities not told to hit quotas and...

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The police need to be given the powers and support to properly protect and police london, yes they need to be accountable but they need to be given the opportunity and resources to protect the communities not told to hit quotas and benchmarks and abused when things aren’t how keyboard warriors want them. They do a difficult job on a shoe string budget.

Crimals have the upper hand because the police are not allowed to be effective and so are easily prevented from doing their jobs, the mayor, government and courts need to get on the side of the community they should be protecting and stop supporting the criminals that bring violence and misery to those communities.

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Police should be allowed to gather evidence but prosecutions only if victim ok to go through that and only after victim safely rehoused. Police could keep evidence for if in future victim able to support charges, and also to help victim...

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Police should be allowed to gather evidence but prosecutions only if victim ok to go through that and only after victim safely rehoused. Police could keep evidence for if in future victim able to support charges, and also to help victim when evidence needed for housing and DV agencies.

Police need to interview witnesses. If neighbours or other witnesses call police, victim often too frightened to tell truth (and injuries often hidden by clothes).

Victims fall through gaps when moving areas (which is common when private renting).

Good reasons why victins can't always use local services (same with gang crime).

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There is a way the police can prosecute without a witness being there, I'm not sure why it's not put into practice more.

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Needs to be help & support and focus not just on young people. Needs to be help and support for middle aged and older victims too. We are human beings, not worthless rubbish just because no longer young.

Many of the DV murder victims (and...

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Needs to be help & support and focus not just on young people. Needs to be help and support for middle aged and older victims too. We are human beings, not worthless rubbish just because no longer young.

Many of the DV murder victims (and victims of other violence) reported in last few years were middle aged or older.

Also there is no specialist support for disabled victims.

Older and disabled, like different race or ethnicity, have specific experiences and needs, and currently there's almost no understanding of those needs and no support.

No way will violence against women and girls end unless safe rehousing options and good support for all victims.

More important than police involvement and criminal justice. Helping victim be safe and to recover and rebuild should be first priority, and shouldn't be blanket approach as sometimes charging the perpetrator doesn't help victim and even makes it worse.

Victims should be able to call police in life threatening situations but not be forced to go through criminal justice system if not able to cope. Helping victim be safe more important.

It's not ok to turn desperate victims away because 'live in wrong area'. Should be mutual agreement between areas to support out of area victims.

I've suffered further physical and mentally injuries after being turned away for help by London services. One advertises as London wide but closed wait lists for some boroughs.

Others don't want to help. They tell you to just leave or go to police (no support offered) and say not relevant if financial abuse or disabilities (which mean you can't just leave). Also trauma means hard to leave without help.

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I would like to see less lenience shown to those carrying knives, no knife crime course, impose a community sentence anything to readjust their thinking. Compulsory education or training or threat of imprisonment.

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You talk about reducing violence against women and girls who are targeted by men and boys because of their sex yet you use the terms 'gender' in your survey. 'Gender' is not a synonym for sex and you cannot tackle sexism and misogyny (in...

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You talk about reducing violence against women and girls who are targeted by men and boys because of their sex yet you use the terms 'gender' in your survey. 'Gender' is not a synonym for sex and you cannot tackle sexism and misogyny (in the police, in the London Assembly or in London) without properly understanding what sex is.

Sex is a protected characteristic under the Equality Act 2010 and confusing and conflating it with 'gender' could cause you problems with your Public Sector Equality Duty under the Act.

'Gender' and similar terms rely on demeaning, regressive stereotypical notions of societal roles for the two sexes, concepts with which I'm sure you would not wish to be associated.

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Prosecuting and preventing male violence against women - in real life AND online, including but not limited to: rape, domestic abuse, street harassment, image-based abuse, misogynistic porn - MUST be the number 1 priority

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